tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13295591.post8683923082135849356..comments2023-10-29T05:33:35.516-07:00Comments on The Art of Apologetics: "pointers to God"Austinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12492394706855254913noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13295591.post-88982406101737558202009-05-07T07:33:00.000-07:002009-05-07T07:33:00.000-07:00further more for a man of his stature, Collins off...further more for a man of his stature, Collins offers some really dodgy justifications built on shaky logic:<br /><br />[when he witnessed patients who were near death but who were deeply comforted by their religious faith]<br /><br />what kind of justification is this? an appeal to emotion?<br /><br />i have also witness drug addicts being very deeply comforted by consuming opium, perhaps we should encourage masses of ppl to take up that habit since it is so comforting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13295591.post-10146046142206893402009-05-07T07:22:00.000-07:002009-05-07T07:22:00.000-07:00this set of arguments can be used by a deist to ar...this set of arguments can be used by a deist to argue for their deist god.<br /><br />but for a catholic it is too weak.<br /><br />for example a muslim can use the same argument to counter claim your catholic god, n have no answer.<br /><br />in that scenario, u'll fall back on YOUR precious scriptures n they fall back on their precious scriptures, n it will be endless mud slinging that follows.<br /><br />see how useless those arguments are to u now cartwright?<br /><br />the Church of the flying Unicorn can use the same set of arguments to "prove" their god to a greater effect that your faith.<br /><br />if u need to prove a catholic god, PROVE it.<br /><br />don't go around trying to prove a deist's god or a taoist's god.<br /><br />besides those argument suffer from their own logical problems anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13295591.post-65654930548625979452009-05-07T07:00:00.000-07:002009-05-07T07:00:00.000-07:00it is always amusing to come across a Christian wh...it is always amusing to come across a Christian who is trying to prove a deist's god to be true.<br /><br />the question is do they know what r they really for? often in the process of debating the non-religious a christian would skip from side to side like Squealer in animal farm n switch between the ideological positions.<br /><br />a god believing scientist's "god" can be very different from the "god" of an apologist and the pope's "god" and the fair-weathered christain's "god" in terms of definition.<br /><br />there are many types of ultimate creators, there are agnostics who take a non-personal one like a deist's god as possible though unknowable n verification to be irrelevant.<br /><br />so what does that irrelevant possibility prove? once 2 of my friends debate on the nature of their beliefs, one is a muslim and the other one is an agnostic, after a lengthy exchange, since the muslim friend would reject arguments from science, n the agnostic would reject argument from islamic scripture, both agree to fall back on a platform which is meaningful to both parties. <br /><br />n so it's goes, my muslim friend issued the final challenge: "do u concede that at least a non-personal ultimate creator's existence's possibllity is not zero"<br /><br />agnositc friend: "of cos, i accept that, so do u accept that too?"<br /><br />muslim friend: "of cos"<br /><br />both conclude: " we are not so different after all, or is it?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com